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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 26, 2013 14:48:25 GMT
Yes they were called 'Albino Ovum', I corrected him on the fact they were really Suturalis and he changed the label, he also thought that the silvers were the albinos and that the white ones were just weaker snails (hence why he was giving those away free) lol! He was a little surprised when I corrected him about this haha
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 26, 2013 13:15:26 GMT
Half of my silvers were from Martin Goss, the parent's were both albinos (most likely related), so I was quite surprised when I opened the box to find the babies I had bought were silvers! The parents did also produce some albino babies, but from what I remember, I believe the majority were silver bodied. That is very interesting Muddydragon! However that would surely only cause random spots/patches as the photo shows, and not a specific pattern?
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 25, 2013 16:49:43 GMT
My Silvers: Silvers tend to have a blue tinge to them. Acromelanic however is albino-cream with brown head/stripe: leucistic causes albino but with normal coloured eyes, but there is a sort of leucistic gene called hypopigmention which gives a piebald effect, but that would be completely random colouring and not just constantly the same brown head/stripe.. So I personally wouldn't say either form was leuism as they just don't fit with it imo. silvers i am completely stumped with and have no clue on what caues it, I would still think that acromelanics are just that, acromelanics, as it fits in terms of colouring, area of colouring and also in that it develops over time, however if they are the same temp exactly over their whole body then we would need to assume it develops another way maybe? or maybe it's just that snails have their own unique colour genes because this all stumps me haha ;D
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 24, 2013 16:52:29 GMT
SOLD! ;D
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 24, 2013 12:11:07 GMT
Well most of this comes from my siamese rat breeding days, but also the fact they were also quite young (2-3 weeks old) when they arrived on my doorstep, and the colour was hardly there at all, but over the next week or so I did notice their colour growing darker into a visible brown. Whether they're in a warm tank or not the colour would still develop, as the eye stalks would still be cooler than the core of the snail even in a warm tank, the same way kittens, etc with this gene would develop the colour even when kept in a toasty house. It is not the temp of the tank that would control the gene, but the body temp of the animal it's self, whether in a warmer or cooler tank, there will still be some areas of the snail's which are cooler than the core. For example, even on a super-hot summers day, your feet will still be a slightly different temp than your torso. It can only affect the 'points' (nose, ears, tail, paws), but in some animals it's also able to affect more of the creature (entire head, limbs, tail) depending on the species, but with the snail it seems it is the eye-stalks, top of the head/neck that get affected as those areas would be a slightly cooler temp than the rest of the body, but I wouldn't imagine the 'v' could get colour as it's closer to the body's core But of course, I could be wrong, and it could just be people calling them 'acromelanic' just because they look like acromelanics lol
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 22, 2013 15:57:00 GMT
Finally managed to upload some pics!! ;D
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 22, 2013 15:34:11 GMT
Oh wow sounds great! I suppose it's blended up to get mushy? Seriously want to try this! ;D thank you!!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 22, 2013 12:31:35 GMT
I must know what that green mush is! I bet my snails would love it!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 21, 2013 16:40:41 GMT
What a trio of beauties!! Makes me want to own Fullies again haha!! ;D
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 21, 2013 14:56:34 GMT
I do believe I've seen for sale fulica 'jade' x albopicta hatchlings, they had albopicta shell and albino body, rather cute really! Hope you get some special little bubbies from these two!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 21, 2013 11:39:50 GMT
I'm pretty sure they're Fulica, there was a few on Ebay about 4 months ago that looked just like these, I was almost tempted to buy a couple haha!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 21, 2013 11:31:04 GMT
Ohhh lovely snaillie! Pretty sure that's an Immaculata though
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 19, 2013 21:04:42 GMT
It is seen a lot with mammal breeding that most animals with pink eyes and white bodies aren't true albinos, for instance P.E.W rats, mice, rabbits. They may look like albinos, but they're eye colour and coat colour are from 2 seperate colour genes merging and hence giving them the appearance of being 'albino' but while really being simply whites with pink eye gene. This could be the same for snails, and could explain both P.E.W and black eyed white snails and that true albinos could be a much rarer thing than we think, or of course it could be that P.E.W snails are the true albinos and that black-eyed are some Luecistic form... Without the tests done I doubt we'll know for sure as both seem quite plausible to me!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 19, 2013 15:38:59 GMT
Leucistic and albino animals are quite alike in regards to how the genes work, but albino will be white with pink eyes and Leucistic will be a pale yellow colour with black eyes. So our 'albinos' with black eyes could very well be Luecistic. However coloured eye stalks is something a bit different from what I've found out, it is meant to be Acromelanic, which is a gene that affects pigment in the way that they cannot form at warm temps, for instance, a rabbit in the womb with this gene would be white, but after it is born its extremities (ears, legs) will develope colour pigment due to those areas being slightly cooler, so would explain the darker stalks
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 18, 2013 22:16:35 GMT
Yes I would also say that if there is black pigment within the eye it would mean they are simply a white morph rather true albinos (pink eyed white). How the white colour came about however I wouldn't know, especially as many wild-caught 'albinos' have black pigment, therefore shattering ideas of selective breeding or it being a result of captivity... :/
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 18, 2013 16:26:19 GMT
It really all depends on the child, my daughter was 1 when she started holding my snails, she was very gentle with them and held them just as I told her too, she's 4 now and helps me do all my feeding and cleaning of the tanks. But I trusted her at that age because she was always very good with our other pets, and learnt how to be gentle and not grip things too hard. But I still wouldn't trust my son and he is 2 because he's simply too excitable and clumsy and I know he'd want to grab the snail rather than simply hold it. So it really does depend on your child.
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 17, 2013 20:48:26 GMT
Some of my snails do this for about 2-3 days at a time, they do come down when they're good and ready, but sometimes if I want to take them out the tank I simply wet my hand and slide my finger underneath them and gently take them off the glass. Don't worry about him doing this, he's fine, it's just a bit easier for him to cling to the glass while slightly out of this shell thats all
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 16, 2013 13:34:49 GMT
I'm currently keeping my 2 baby blue apples in a 1 gallon tank, but will have to get a larger one soon as the rule of thumb is 2.5 gallons per adult snail I believe
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 7, 2013 21:25:46 GMT
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 7, 2013 14:56:54 GMT
Yes I agree with Tbger. They are most likely just one of those species that likes to be buried! Achatina Achatina is also a species which I find spends most of it's time buried even when kept at optimum conditions. I am sure you are keeping them correctly if all your care information matches that of the way other people care for them. And I'm sure if it was incorrect your snails would have been showing signs of ill-health by now, but as they aren't I would say you are keeping them just fine! Wonderful little tank they've got there by the way!
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Post by Evil Angel on Mar 5, 2013 10:09:12 GMT
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Post by Evil Angel on Feb 28, 2013 12:17:04 GMT
I'm really fussy when it comes to games, I've been playing Runescape for YEARS, Red Dead Redemption I find a great game as I get to ride about on horses and the landscape is so beautiful and interesting, The Sims was also a game I played a lot but the packs and stuff became too pricey, also Little Big Planet I'm quite fond of, Final Fantasy 7 & 8, Zoo Tycoon 2, and the older Devil May Cry's are the only games I play, nothing else has grabbed me apart from those
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Post by Evil Angel on Feb 28, 2013 10:08:50 GMT
Mellie82, Marginata Ovum shells are rather rounded, and they should have a raised 'v' on their tails, shell pattern can vary, columella should be apricot in colour to formally ID them, they will get much larger than Fulica, reaching about 17cm shell length. My profile picture is of 2 of my ovums if that helps?
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Post by Evil Angel on Feb 27, 2013 20:48:53 GMT
I am 100% sure those aren't any form of Marginata snails4you. I would also say the correct ID would be Achatina Immaculata.
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Post by Evil Angel on Feb 19, 2013 17:59:35 GMT
Dont think Tbger meant it like Ultrapoi, I think he was just suggesting reasons of why this may have happened, as, like me, he may simply not seen the line about there being food still in the tank and just been offering up ideas.
Sorry about you snail Jembolina, your little guy certainly seemed to have been one very loved snail!
It sounds as though you have had him a long time, and as all your other snails are fine, I would have thought he simply got old and frail and his time came. Don't blame yourself, everything has it's time sadly.
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